administers aids ?
so i was listening to everyones favorite rapper and i got to thinking about a line he used where he states that the government administers aids !
do you think thats true ? do you think its a asinine accusation ? let me know
i believe there is a cure for aids but they wont tell us because it is one way to control population growth.
See what you can find on two brother who were doctors, last name Strucker, or Strukker (perhaps a different spelling). They had lots of research and suddenly they were both found murdered, first one, then the other. You might also look into the UN administered vaccination programs in Haiti, then Africa.
Draw your own conclusions.
PAX
the secrets do not lie with Kanye West. You have to listen to someone with at least 1/2 a brain.
The names are Strecker. They have quite a few thigns out there which make you think. Not sure what to believe, but I'd never conclude that the government wouldn't do something like this.
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care to explain why the governemtn would admisiter a horrible disease to its own people? i can't think of any crazy reasons why that would be a good thing
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Why would a government release an agent that attacks people on the margin of society? What populations have been affected the most by this disease?
PAX
Well, they said that the CIA ran the largest Cocaine importing business just after the Columbians, and they developed new drugs like Crack and Crystal Methamphetamine.
No Gov't is going to own up to that kind of populace control, especially if they can't weaponise the agent.
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unweaponized, AIDS is worthless. hell even weaponized its junk, it takes too long to kill people. and if they were doing tests, they wouldn't drop it on america. if we ever found out there would be a revolution.
and the thing with drugs. i heard, not sure of how true it is, but i heard that the military experimented with crystal meth once to see its potential as a field stimulant. apparantly it was highly successful but led severe dependency so they stopped testing
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You'll never taste God's breath
Because you'll never see the second coming
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I've seen the ways of God
I'll take the devil any day
Hail Satan
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Ummm seems to me like there would be a more efficent way ot kill us off.
if the government administered AIDS, then wouldn't our AIDS population mirror the size of that of a few of the countries in Africa? theirs is much, MUCH higher than ours.
i agree with emor8t. stop listening to people with half a brain, and use your own.
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AIDS is a social disease and therefore follows social patterns. Africans have limited access and limited education when it comes to "safe" sex. therefore the speads of AIDS there has been much more rapid. Haiti is next in line with a huge infected population. Similar reasons.
In North America it attacks primarily homosexuals (again because of a culture of unprotected sex) and IV drug users. Very few people in the upper tier of society are affected. IV drug users usually come out of poorer populations that have little hope of achievement and generally poorer education levels.
Did a government do this? Maybe, but doubtful. Did the Counsil of Rome have something to do with it? Far more likely. Is it a national population control, no.. Global? Yes. Man made or natural? There is contriversial evidence on both sides of that fence. The Strekker (thanks for the correction) brothers were convinced it is a man-made pathogen and that is part of the reason it is so weak.
Read the stuff, follow the patterns of movement, see who wins and who loses.. Draw your own conclusions.
PAX
Hahahaha: Until recently, infection rates between homo and heteros were almost at a dead heat. It's the promiscuity bit that's brought it about in Homosexuals, but in hetero's it's combined promiscuity and IV drugs use and transfer.
As far as Strekker's ideals, they follow to a point, but they're not exactly 100%... Patient 0 of the Aids pandemic was located in Africa (I forget what exact country, but I seem to remember Kenya), it was in 1952-54, and he was a copper miner. He ate improperly cooked Monkey flesh, and the simian version of AIDS made the species leap to sapiens. This information was found out by the CDC and verified by WHO iirc in the late 90s (like 98, I might be wrong on any of these facts, and if I am, I'd appreciate the verification
).
Either way, where there is unprotected sex, low education, and IV drug use (and high birth rates... Remember, mother to child transmission) AIDS has a breeding ground.
Mike:
Aids could be weaponised, but it would have to be engineered a lot more to make it more effective... it'd be a delayed reaction agent and used for de-population and usurping of an area. Small-pox would be more effective as a battlefield weapon... and other virii (botullinium for instance). For AIDS to be an effective weapon, it'd have to have a much... much shorter incubation period.
Either way, if it was engineered, it would have been tested outside the US (remember, we're talking 1950-ish, quarrentine would be minimal), and Africa would be pretty much ideal as it's remote and there was little travel into and out of the country at the time.
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well yeah gam, if they made it fast acting it would be a devastating weapon. but i don't think anyone is experimenting with it to make it into a weapon
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You'll never taste God's breath
Because you'll never see the second coming
Life's too short to be focused on insanity
I've seen the ways of God
I'll take the devil any day
Hail Satan
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If it was fast acting it would look like a weapon too
I have a friend that has been living with AIDS since 1985 (maybe longer, that's when he was diagnosed).
I did not mean to imply that AIDS only attacks homosexuals and IV drug users, only that they are the highest rates of infection in North America. There are people who are neither an IV drug user or a homosexual and have it (my friend is an example).
What if you were in the power elite and you needed to reduce social spending without it looking like you actually targeted a population for elimination and you wanted a chance for any accidental infections to be corrected? Do IV drug users seek medical attention, yes, but too late far too often. Can a wealthy person (or one with access to resource) live with AIDS, yes. What about the populations of poor nations, can they get drug treatment? How did this extremely weak virus go from a virtual nothing for over 30 years to an epedemic in no time? Discovered in 54, but not a problem until the 80's and then world wide infections (in some areas up to 40% of the general population) in less than 10 years?
I will not attempt to answer these questions as it's all speculation but the circumstantial evidence is rather odd and should be raising eyebrows all over the world.
PAX
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Don't believe anything your government tells you.
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GAM (The Kilted One) wrote:
Either way, if it was engineered, it would have been tested outside the US (remember, we're talking 1950-ish, quarrentine would be minimal), and Africa would be pretty much ideal as it's remote and there was little travel into and out of the country at the time.
My thoughts as well. I've often thought by the very nature of AIDS, that it may have been man made. Now one thing to think about this is that it originally infected monkeys before the leap to humans. However... when developing(drugs etc) anything intended for humans, what is the most ideal animal for testing? Bingo!!
Now I think a realistic
theoretical scenario is this - Being developed as a weapon, being developed in Africa(the most likely place to develop something like this) may have/have not been still in stages of development, something happened(like some extremist earth-freak group raid and/or accident etc) somehow allowing test moneys into the wild(maybe on purpose).
Monkeys in the wild aren't know for faithful committed relationships. Aids spread like wildfire among monkeys. Now eventually it spread to a human(s) through supposedly(lets hope it didn't spread monkey to humans through the "usual method" of spreading AIDS - gross but possible) undercooked monkey meat(which IMO is pretty close to cannibalism courtesy of our close relationship to monkeys). Then AIDS made the very small jump(very biologically similar) to humans. And since everyone travels country to country(having sex etc along the way), AIDS spread globally.
Now if our government(or any government) was responsible for this, you better bet they will NEVER own up to it. You can bet those papers(assuming they ever existed) are long since incinerated, and everyone involved in such experiments having already met up with "unfortunate accidents" and/or "suicides" etc. Well if any government was behind it, good luck proving something like that.
In all seriousness now - if I found any incriminating evidence about anything our government is behind - I would shut the hell up and pretend I saw nothing. Our government plays very dirty and I have no need to be a martyr. Ironically for those living in "the land of the free" - we have one of the most ultra-corrupt governments around. Sure you hear about more in other governments all the time - but they don't work to damm hard to hide it as does ours.
There is a reason ours seems to still be "for the people" - In lies and secrecy is power. Just how effectively could a "secret agent" do his/her job if they aren't secret? Same goes for our own government. One of the very reasons America revolted - is that England's corruption towards the colonies wasn't quite so secret and people revolted(BTW those people who revolted where quite "unpatriotic" toward their own government which was Great Brittan). It just so happens today that the greatest threat to the freedom in America the very government we really on to protect that freedom.
I honestly think that if the majority of Americans knew 1/1000th of what really goes on "in the best interest of the American people" - thinks would get ugly - REAL UGLY - around here. Heck
just look at what's happening in France.
I've never heard of this "part throttle" before. Does it just bolt on?
BK3K: I think the 1/1000th of a percent is pretty liberal.
Anyhow, the Simian AIDS virus is present in most every simian species... Since humans are fairly closely related, it's not a HUGE leap (not like say, Crocodile to Human).
Also, if I knew of anything regarding the US Gov't that I had more than tasset evidence of, the first place I'd go is Alert, NWT after wiring copies of the evidence to a Swiss bank and Cayman Island bank, as well as 3 other Casino banks in Monaco, Rio De Janiero and Minsk, and leave instructions with 5 different lawyers in Canada, Britain, Switzerland, Japan and another country to find the information and assemble the information. All would have to agree to a 5 way split of whatever extortion/publication money in the event of my "disappearance" under any unsual circumstances....
Actually, that's the idea behind a story I was writing in College... But then, Conspiracy Theory came out and Mel Gibson went and wrecked it for me.
DAMMIT!
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falnfenix wrote:
i agree with emor8t. stop listening to people with half a brain, and use your own.
actually if you must know i am using my own brain just cause kanye says something doesnt mean i am gonna follow suit with him. this is made to be a discussion on aids groath rate not kanye west ,please refrain from talking about him. i used his purely as an example on how the topic was started.
the way that i see it like gam has pointed out already , aids affects upran america and homosexuals the most at this moment. both cases where they claim to not be getting egual rights. maine just passed its law about homosexual discrimination. about how it can no longer play a role in the hiring/firing from a job. what a better way to get rid of a population you dont want with a mass "disease". . .. however lets also think about how the urban aspect would not have money to help prolong there life with this disease there for dieing at a much faster rate. face the facts medical care is not cheap nowadays i see it daily for example a 12 inch table fan that you can get at any store for 20 bucks or under at the hospital will cost you 126 dollars at least at my hospital. and thats just for a common everyday house fan !!!! the drug coctail will usually consist of 10 + pills for some people even with insurance (if you have it at the time ) roughly 15$ per prescription if you have 10 scripts thats a total of 150$ per month and thats with insurance and we all know about them but thats for another debate.
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Depending on the strain, an Aids cocktail will be between 30 and 150 pills a day.
Depending on your drug plan, you can get 100% or 0% covered. Luckily for me, if I get injured or contract a disease on the job that prevents me from returning to work, I get 2 years' salary up front, all medical premiums and costs covered, and basically, I get a disability package that is the equivalent of working salary with adjustments for inflation and pay raises. You wouldn't believe the number of times I've had to put on gloves to handle a form that has blood on it.
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GAM (The Kilted One) wrote:Depending on the strain, an Aids cocktail will be between 30 and 150 pills a day.
Depending on your drug plan, you can get 100% or 0% covered. Luckily for me, if I get injured or contract a disease on the job that prevents me from returning to work, I get 2 years' salary up front, all medical premiums and costs covered, and basically, I get a disability package that is the equivalent of working salary with adjustments for inflation and pay raises. You wouldn't believe the number of times I've had to put on gloves to handle a form that has blood on it.
believe me when i see blood daily or a dead body i used to be so freaked out the first 10 times i saw one now its a daily accourance.
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Jason: What do you do for a living? I thought I was the blood and guts geek around here...
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[quote=Keeper of the Light™]Don't believe anything your government tells you.
The only words to live by.
Also on the Riots in France thing.
To quote my cousins who live over there. "Like America there are some places in cities you don't go to, and the riots are happening in those places." Not all over france like the media would want you to believe. American media especially has blown it out of proportion.
-Chris
GAM (The Kilted One) wrote:^^^ BWAAAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Jason: What do you do for a living? I thought I was the blood and guts geek around here...
i work for a hospital , in a department called central service we deal with transporting patients to and from tests,floors we also have equipment rentals. also we deal with specimen transportation varying from hearts, hands , blood, cancerous breasts, testicles lol pretty much everything.there is much more we do but we would be here for hours , me describing what we do lol. what do you do for work gam that puts you in contact with blood ?
