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2004 2005 differences?
Sunday, November 28, 2004 7:21 PM
Am i rite in thinkin that there are no major differences between the 2004 and the 2005 ecotec cavaliers? i was looking on RKSport.com and i noticed a bunch of stuff for the 04 cavaliers that they didnt have for the 05 cavs-and i was figuring jus bein new-havent had time to update yet-i want the B&M Shifter that they have listed for the 04-also has anyone found any good aluminum trim kits? also how bout the ractive style shift boots w/the chrome trim piece? Thanks-Cody

"I can't believe you are doin all this to a Cavalier!"-Everybody Else
"Hey-at least its not a damn civic!!"-ME

Re: 2004 2005 differences?
Wednesday, December 01, 2004 4:47 AM
absolutely no difference


if you have a 05, its just a glorified 04 <br>

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2004 Cavalier ~ 15.98 - Bone Stock
Re: 2004 2005 differences?
Wednesday, December 01, 2004 11:23 AM
2005 Cavaliers are guaranteed to me built in Mexico, 2004's you can tell from the vin number where it was made. Mine was built in the US.
Re: 2004 2005 differences?
Wednesday, December 01, 2004 12:43 PM
New for 2005
Deletion of the Bi-Fuel compressed natural gas (CNG) system


^^ thats the only difference GM lists



Re: 2004 2005 differences?
Friday, December 03, 2004 9:31 PM
i jus found out that the 04 cav's didnt have a resonator between the cat and the muffler-however my 05 does have one...well not for long-its too small of an inlet...im goin 2¼ anyways-anyone have any exhaust clips of an ecotec w/a borla?

"I can't believe you are doin all this to a Cavalier!"-Everybody Else
"Hey-at least its not a damn civic!!"-ME
Re: 2004 2005 differences?
Friday, December 03, 2004 9:35 PM
mine has a resinator.... but like you said.. not for long... getting sick of the "pop pop pop" when i downshift....... lol <br>

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2004 Cavalier ~ 15.7- Bone Stock... 17's and full sound system
Re: 2004 2005 differences?
Saturday, December 04, 2004 9:29 PM
im jus sick of sumptin so cheap...especially for bein a 2005-bein that quiet and that quick stock for a 4 cylinder-u can definitly tell when the ecotec kicks in...

"I can't believe you are doin all this to a Cavalier!"-Everybody Else
"Hey-at least its not a damn civic!!"-ME
Re: 2004 2005 differences?
Sunday, December 05, 2004 9:09 PM
Cody Ott wrote:i jus found out that the 04 cav's didnt have a resonator between the cat and the muffler-however my 05 does have one...well not for long-its too small of an inlet...im goin 2¼ anyways-anyone have any exhaust clips of an ecotec w/a borla?



Mine does.
Re: 2004 2005 differences?
Monday, December 06, 2004 7:38 AM
well if you remove the resonator your cav will turn into a civic..or at least sound like one..it may or may not grow the 4 ft. tall wing
Re: 2004 2005 differences?
Tuesday, December 07, 2004 2:47 PM
Brandon Gathye wrote:well if you remove the resonator your cav will turn into a civic..or at least sound like one..it may or may not grow the 4 ft. tall wing



lmao <br>

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2004 Cavalier ~ 15.7- Bone Stock... 17's and full sound system
Re: 2004 2005 differences?
Tuesday, December 07, 2004 6:21 PM
Mike 2200 wrote:2005 Cavaliers are guaranteed to me built in Mexico, 2004's you can tell from the vin number where it was made. Mine was built in the US.


wrong....mine is an 05 and built in ohio <br>




Re: 2004 2005 differences?
Tuesday, December 07, 2004 10:19 PM
NwCavi wrote:
Mike 2200 wrote:2005 Cavaliers are guaranteed to me built in Mexico, 2004's you can tell from the vin number where it was made. Mine was built in the US.


wrong....mine is an 05 and built in ohio


I must have been mis-informed.

How do you know yours was built in Ohio?
Re: 2004 2005 differences?
Tuesday, December 07, 2004 10:22 PM
by looking at the vin # ... <br>



Re: 2004 2005 differences?
Wednesday, December 08, 2004 6:24 AM
Hey NWCavi... u got any pics of your car?!??! <br>

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2004 Cavalier ~ 15.7- Bone Stock... 17's and full sound system
Re: 2004 2005 differences?
Wednesday, December 08, 2004 12:40 PM
NwCavi wrote:by looking at the vin # ...


cool.
Re: 2004 2005 differences?
Wednesday, December 08, 2004 5:29 PM
Cody Ott wrote:im jus sick of sumptin so cheap...especially for bein a 2005-bein that quiet and that quick stock for a 4 cylinder-u can definitly tell when the ecotec kicks in...


I hope your joking because ECOTEC is just a name, there is no extra cam lobe or variable valve timing on ours cars, the new ECOTEC in certain Cobalts will get I-VVT though..........

As my misinformed Honda buddy stated when we were making a down hill run,

"oh my god, this thing does have Ectotec!" <br>


Re: 2004 2005 differences?
Wednesday, December 08, 2004 7:23 PM
actually-the Ecotec, Vortec, Duratec, Zetec...they all work basically on the same principle as Vtec-only the Ecotec is the closest thing to the Vtec-its real sluggish untill bout 3500 rpms then it picks up quick-like a vtec kickin in which vtec is an extra exhaust port per cylinder which improves acceleration...however it was designed for fuel economy-from my understanding the Ecotec works off a similar concept...either way at 3500 rpms....its off like a bat outa hell...

"I can't believe you are doin all this to a Cavalier!"-Everybody Else
"Hey-at least its not a damn civic!!"-ME
Re: 2004 2005 differences?
Thursday, December 09, 2004 8:50 PM
Cody Ott wrote:actually-the Ecotec, Vortec, Duratec, Zetec...they all work basically on the same principle as Vtec-only the Ecotec is the closest thing to the Vtec-its real sluggish untill bout 3500 rpms then it picks up quick-like a vtec kickin in which vtec is an extra exhaust port per cylinder which improves acceleration...however it was designed for fuel economy-from my understanding the Ecotec works off a similar concept...either way at 3500 rpms....its off like a bat outa hell...


um... no.

Not trying to be an ass about it but your understanding is not correct.

VTEC. Research what this actually stands for.

The Ecotec engine does not have variable valve timing like Honda's VTEC engines.

Duratec is a V6 ford engine that does not have variable valve timing.

Vortec engines are OHV engines.

Ztec is like the Ecotec in that it is just a 4cyl DOHC engine without variable valve timing.

Lastly, the most common mis-concemtion about VTEC is that it was designed for performance, it was mostly designed for low emissions and economy, and the extra power is a result of the better more efficient design.


Look here: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question229.htm
Re: 2004 2005 differences?
Friday, December 10, 2004 4:45 AM
actually i wasnt trying to be an ass however-i did state that vtec was for economy and performance was jus an extra bonus-and u are wrong one one point-the Duratec engine is not jus at V6-because the 2.5L Duratec motor in the 02 and up rangers is an I4

"I can't believe you are doin all this to a Cavalier!"-Everybody Else
"Hey-at least its not a damn civic!!"-ME
Re: 2004 2005 differences?
Friday, December 10, 2004 10:44 AM
Cody Ott wrote: u are wrong one one point-the Duratec engine is not jus at V6-because the 2.5L Duratec motor in the 02 and up rangers is an I4


Again no, you are wrong. The 2.5 Duratec is also a V6. It is not in the Ranger. I never said you were being an ass. I only stated you were not correct.

There is a 4cyl engine in the Ranger and it is a 2.3L DOHC 4cyl Duratec engine, still no variable valve timing like VTEC.
Re: 2004 2005 differences?
Friday, December 10, 2004 1:57 PM
Brandon Gathye wrote:well if you remove the resonator your cav will turn into a civic..or at least sound like one..it may or may not grow the 4 ft. tall wing


i dont have any resonator on my MagnaFlow Cat-back and its way not a lousy Honda noise. Beside resonator i dont need it.

Re: 2004 2005 differences?
Saturday, December 11, 2004 10:34 AM
Mike 2200 wrote:
Cody Ott wrote: u are wrong one one point-the Duratec engine is not jus at V6-because the 2.5L Duratec motor in the 02 and up rangers is an I4


Again no, you are wrong. The 2.5 Duratec is also a V6. It is not in the Ranger. I never said you were being an ass. I only stated you were not correct.

There is a 4cyl engine in the Ranger and it is a 2.3L DOHC 4cyl Duratec engine, still no variable valve timing like VTEC.



My fault i didnt mean 2.5 Duratec...i was meaning 2.3 Duratec-the only motors that come in rangers now is the 2.3, 3.0, 4.0-98-01's had a 2.5L which is a 4 cylinder...basically a bored over 2.3 from the earlier rangers-and sorry i wasnt feelin that good that day-i didnt exactly read everthing rite-so basically -there is nothing special about this ecotec engine-it just is peppy at about 3500 rpms-thats it-either way its still impressive-now my question is...and not tryin to sound like a honda person(i hate hondas) as it was stated earlier certain cobalts will have I-VVT....any chance of a head swap?

"I can't believe you are doin all this to a Cavalier!"-Everybody Else
"Hey-at least its not a damn civic!!"-ME
Re: 2004 2005 differences?
Tuesday, December 14, 2004 11:32 AM
I don't know the answer to your question.

My opion is... why bother. The Cavalier/Sunfire weighs alot less than the Cobalt/ION. Having raced an automatic ION with my automatic Cavalier, the difference is pretty significant. The ION/Cobalt "needs" variable valve timing to keep up.

I'd just stick to "normal" modifications, less headache, less expensive. I
Re: 2004 2005 differences?
Tuesday, December 14, 2004 7:22 PM
that is true...i was jus curious-they mite need all that to keep up...jus think if we had it to begin w/-y couldnt chevy think ahead for this cavalier lol-so is the 2005 the last yr for the cavalier? everything from here on out is going to be the cobalt?

"I can't believe you are doin all this to a Cavalier!"-Everybody Else
"Hey-at least its not a damn civic!!"-ME
Re: 2004 2005 differences?
Wednesday, December 15, 2004 1:59 PM
Cody Ott wrote:that is true...i was jus curious-they mite need all that to keep up...jus think if we had it to begin w/-y couldnt chevy think ahead for this cavalier lol-so is the 2005 the last yr for the cavalier? everything from here on out is going to be the cobalt?


Yep, 2005 is the last year for Cavalier.
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