If I understand this right, the Redline has an intercooler sandwiched between the S/C and the Intake Manifold. This Air to Water Intercooler(meaning the Air passes thru vanes that are internally cooled with water/coolant) has piqued my interest. Wondering what it's efficiency is and IF I can apply it to a turbo application, thereby eliminating the front mount and making a very convincing sleeper. Anyone with any info please share =D.
TIMMAY
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If I understand this right, the Redline has an intercooler sandwiched between the S/C and the Intake Manifold. This Air to Water Intercooler(meaning the Air passes thru vanes that are internally cooled with water/coolant) has piqued my interest. Wondering what it's efficiency is and IF I can apply it to a turbo application, thereby eliminating the front mount and making a very convincing sleeper. Anyone with any info please share =D.
The intercooler is actually inside the inlet manifold. Its a laminova charge cooler which is very efficient. But i guess that scuppers your plans for using it with a turbo...
Ta, Paul.
From my parts catalog, the actual "intercooler" is mounted between the radiator and condensor assembly.
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From my parts catalog, the actual "intercooler" is mounted between the radiator and condensor assembly.
The intercooler cores are integral to the inlet manifold... I would post a link to the pdf of the engine specs, but i can't find it!
Ta, Paul.
Oh you mean the cooler charge tube? You are right, i's in the manifold. I thought you meant the radiator-type cooler.
So why would that bugger anything up, all I would need to do is get an Intake Manifold from a 2.0L LSJ. Fabricate a plate/adapter to moung the TB that would look something like a pyramid to slow and distribute the air down to cool it in the cooler. Anyone that works with air knows about Bernoulli's principle. Figure up how to hook up the water to the intake and run with it. It's on the LSJ so why can't it work for a 2.2L Turbocharged motor.
Why wouldn't this be possible?
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So why would that bugger anything up, all I would need to do is get an Intake Manifold from a 2.0L LSJ. Fabricate a plate/adapter to moung the TB that would look something like a pyramid to slow and distribute the air down to cool it in the cooler. Anyone that works with air knows about Bernoulli's principle. Figure up how to hook up the water to the intake and run with it. It's on the LSJ so why can't it work for a 2.2L Turbocharged motor.
No, indeed it is possible if you were able to fabricate some kind of linkage... I just meant that its not going to be a plug and play type deal
Ta, Paul.
I know several MIG and TIG welders that I work with. If I gave them the specs I think I could get it made on the cheap. Save some cash on the IC piping and IC and get this set up. If I can get it up and running I will let you all know =D.
There is also a slight possibility of having to relocate the alternator/generator with this intake, not sure if it's needed but will see when I get to that point. They do have a relocation piece...however it's in the several thousand dollar GM SC kit for the Ecotec.
Tim
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There is also a slight possibility of having to relocate the alternator/generator with this intake, not sure if it's needed but will see when I get to that point. They do have a relocation piece...however it's in the several thousand dollar GM SC kit for the Ecotec.
They do? I never saw that in the gm sport compact build manual... (goes to check)
Ah yes, they do say about installing a new generator bracket! Its part no. 12584365 if you want to order that separately...
Ta, Paul.
After taking a closer look at some pictures I'm not so sure that it actually HAS to be relocated. There is also a new idler and tensioner, however I'm not sure if those are actually needed b/c there isn't that SC pulley there now. I may be able to just leave the generator in place.
If I do need to relocate it, how would I order that piece separately. At the GM site? B/c I put the part number in the "P/N Search" and nothing came up. Any help is appreciated.
Tim
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If I do need to relocate it, how would I order that piece separately. At the GM site? B/c I put the part number in the "P/N Search" and nothing came up. Any help is appreciated.
Yeah, i tried doing the same thing... Perhaps those pt number just haven't gone though yet - the supercharger package has only recently appeared in there....
Cheers, Paul.
Spoke today with Ray at Bates Engineering in California. Nice chat. He said that he would mill me this piece that I spoke of . Also talked to him about engine stuff and that the ECOtec + boost = get up and run like a cat with its a$$ on fire. He also said that alot of motors have a really crappy piece for the timing chain tensioner. Tends to break after about 30,000 miles and also after hard usage (i.e. high rev and drag applications) resulting in chain breakage and other not nice things. He has an all metal replacement same function just stronger, call him for details if you are running a serious HP applcation.
If anyone with an LSJ engine has measurements for the bolt hole locations (length and width bolt hole to bolt hole and the amount of bolt holes) on the intake manifold (where the SC mounts to the intake) help a brother out. I'm trying to make a plate that bolts over the hole so that I can mount a throttle body to it. Need some exact measurements so that I can get it machined. If you can, email me a hand drawn picture of what the intake looks like with the measurements on the picture. Any help would be greatly appreciated =D.
